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I don’t think it’s particularly fair to compare films that came out four months ago to films that came out a year and a half ago’s IMDB votes. At least not until we’re two months past the Oscars. A lot of these films do get a boost in visibility after the Oscars (with Jojo Rabbit being at 80k votes this time last year and over 300k votes now being the most prominent example) and they probably will get more of boost this year.

In terms of popularity I’d say it’s a mixed bunch in the field this year. Sans Jojo Rabbit and Parasite (which both received a bump from the academy into the zeitgeist), each of the Best Picture nominees were more or less expensive studio films designed to be big zeitgeisty hits.

This year the closest things we have to those big films are Promising Young Woman and The Trial of the Chicago 7 (both of which are the only films I’ve heard people who don’t follow the Oscars or aren’t a part of Twitter actually talk or hear about). Minari and Nomadland are the usual type of indie fare produced by Searchlight and A24 that we’ve seen more and more in the Oscars race like Room, Moonlight and Boyhood. Mank is a film only cinephiles care about and that’s with or without a pandemic. In spite of having two recognisable faces LEADING the film and being on HBO Max, Judas and the Black Messiah is surprisingly not that popular. Time will tell whether that’s because it’s a late breaker like Phantom Thread was or because of the pandemic. Sound of Metal is surprisingly popular for what it is but it’s still a film I only hear about with cinephiles.

The Father might have a chance at proving to be a big hit. It’s already been doing quite well on VOD charts since it got released and its international roll out goes into August(!) so there’s a chance this film could actually be a box office hit internationally and generate an actual word of mouth. It could be like The Personal History of David Copperfield was for two months before the lockdown in the UK.

To cut a long story short I’d say that whilst there’s general apathy towards this season (which how could there not be because how many people care about awards during a devastating pandemic when they are only superficially aware of two of the nominated films, aren’t able to go out into cinemas like they used to and people are more taken by the likes of television shows like Bridgerton, The Crown, The Queen’s Gambit, Wandavision etc). However I’d say time (roughly a year) will only tell us how big a welcome hug these films are given by the zeitgeist considering how much of an Oscar bump we see many films get in normal years and how there might be more of a bump this year. The Oscar ratings will still crash nonetheless.

FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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It is…. and it will be a miracle if the ratings reach 10 millions. Oscars should had being cancelled for this year. In any normal year none of these films would be nominated.

according to who?
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I wonder when The Father reaches its peak popularity and people talk how robbed Hopkins’ is (and start to boycott the Oscar). That’s a plot twist that will get me mildly smiling.

Improbable, but not impossible.
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I wonder when The Father reaches its peak popularity and people talk how robbed Hopkins’ is (and start to boycott the Oscar). That’s a plot twist that will get me mildly smiling.

Improbable, but not impossible.

People are really obsessed with this thing aren’t they?
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What are you people smoking? Nobody is gonna be talking about this crop of movies in 5 years or less except for us.
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SN

Dec 7th, 2014

Yes, it is, at least since the preferential ballot started. But it has nothing to do with IMDb votes. It’s just the lack of big studio offerings due to the pandemic.
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I wonder when The Father reaches its peak popularity and people talk how robbed Hopkins’ is (and start to boycott the Oscar). That’s a plot twist that will get me mildly smiling. Improbable, but not impossible.

A. They won’t know he’s losing until after the ceremony, those are the same people who will convince themselves there will be an upset.

B. The sort of people who care about that are the sort who religiously will watch the awards even just to complain about them the whole time
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People are really obsessed with this thing aren’t they?

because it is so good
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What are you people smoking? Nobody is gonna be talking about this crop of movies in 5 years or less except for us.

so are you agree if 365 Days or Music should’ve been nominated to keep people talking about this lineup..?
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No, absolutely not. But the Academy has almost completely divested from the culture, ensuring that neither quality nor impact makes its mark on the nominations.

Who the Hell is talking about Frost/Nixon or Lion?
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I do agree with wolfali. The two films I’ve heard the most about from people who aren’t exactly film enthusiasts are PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN and TRIAL OF THE CHICAGO 7…but really only the former has had a bigger response amongst friends.

When I posted on social media about several of the contenders, only PYW got the biggest response.

I would say I’ve been able to convince others to watch JUDAS, SOUND OF METAL, and MINARI.

MINARI is even playing in a small town theatre about 40 minutes away from where I grew up in WV and a few people I knew went to see it based on what I had said about it.

In the end, a lot of these films aren’t generating much buzz right now so it’ll be interesting to see where they will stand in history as the years go by.

I don’t really suspect that MANK or TRIAL will hold up that well.

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The only two BP nominees I’ve had random friends of mine post about on social media or talk about in RL have been Judas and Trial (mostly the latter). In contrast to last year where everyone was talking about Joker and Parasite, Jojo Rabbit, Irishman, Ford v. Ferrari, and 1917 all were kind of in the conversation. Even Marriage Story had all the argument memes lol.

This is probably because theaters are closed and it’s expensive to get all the streaming services now. Netflix managed to scoop up the one crowd pleaser that they didn’t delay.

I also think the zoom ceremonies for the precursors might be hurting buzz. Lots of people watch to see the celebs all gather and see the fashion and whatnot and the zoom ceremonies don’t have that, and then that means events like the Globes don’t give as much a visibility boost as they would in normal years.
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If the metric used to measure popularity is box office, then yes, this would be the “least popular” Oscar season ever, and we all know why that’s the case. If we’re talking about INDb, who cares? That’s not relevant.
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Who the Hell is talking about Frost/Nixon or Lion?

With all due respect, apart from Mank, are any of the Best Picture nominees comparable to either of those films? I’m genuinely intrigued by what you’re trying to suggest with this comparison.

FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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SN

Dec 7th, 2014

With all due respect, apart from Mank, are any of the Best Picture nominees comparable to either of those films?

Chicago 7
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